Speaker Quotes

Maria Lucia Padua Lima

“The damage imposed on Brazil by the systemic corruption implemented by acting political forces in the last two decades is of an amazing scale when compared to any other country in the world.”

“Petty corruption describes the ordinary corruption that takes place when officials meet [with the] public. On the other hand, systemic corruption may be described as a situation in which key institutions and process of the state are consistently dominated and used by corrupted individuals and groups. In this regard, systemic corruption should be viewed as involving practices which are permanent, centralized, and widespread in government activities. A network of corrupt persons acting together and performing different roles follows a common set of norms and rules, normally in a formal scheme. In this sense, systemic corruption is much more than individual behavior.”

“In general, Operation Car Wash might be viewed as a method of uncovering these crimes committed by individuals, public officials, politicians, and private organizations against the Brazil public office and submit these offenders to the penalties established by the law.”

“[This] undeniable criminal scheme led by the federal government was not only for at least enrichment, but especially to gain elections and to achieve governability based on corrupted practices with the consequences of the criminal[s’] perpetuation in power.”

Paulo Clarindo Goldschimidt

“Since the beginning of its operation in 1953, Petrobras had been a very profitable company until the year of 2014 […] In total from 2014 to 2017, the company had a loss of nearly 21 billion dollars.”

“If one looks closely to the figures of the financial results in 2014, two particular components could be stressed. The first was the formal acceptance of the corruption scheme in the company and the second was related to the huge impairments made in the company’s assets […] The corruption loss formally accepted by the company [Petrobras] in its 2014 financial statements was established in a very unorthodox manner. It was assumed that all contracts signed by Petrobras in the period from 2004 and 2012 had an overprice of 3 percent. The origin of this magic number was the plea bargain agreement signed by some former Petrobras executives which were directly and explicitly involved in the corruption scheme in the company. Based on this magic number, the company decided to include an extraordinary expense of $2.3 billion in the financial statement of 2014, and thus between quotes cleaning up all the wrongdoings of the previous nine years. This was the only time the company recognized explicitly in the corruption in its financial statement.”

“In the periods of 2014 and 2017, impairment expenses reached the astronomical peak of 36 billion dollars. For example, only in two Petrobras refineries—Abreu e Lima in the northeast of the country and Comperj in the southeast of the country—the effects of the impairments in the year of 2014 was of roughly 12 billion dollars. This was more than five times the amount recognized as corruption in the same year.”

Fabio Ramazzini Bechera

“It’s important to remember also that there are a lot of different initiatives led not only by federal state and local institutions, but also from the civil society asking for more transparency, asking for more control, [and] asking for more accountability over public procurements, public servants, and political campaigns.”

“A second important legacy that should be emphasized is the culture of integrity that we are watching within Brazilian companies. There is a very concrete concern within Brazilian companies [regarding] implementing compliance programs […] One aspect that fosters this culture of integrity, in my opinion, is that the risk of criminal responsibility for the board of the company finally is real.”

“Political campaign financing has changed from private funding to public funding and I think it’s very early to [know whether] this change was good. I’m not convinced that it was really good. Why? Because the Car Wash Operation revealed a shadow, parallel financial system created to fund the relationship between politicians, entrepreneurs, and public servants.”

“The role that international legal cooperation procedures and treaties played in the Car Wash Operation—the effectiveness and the agility of sharing information, of sharing evidence and freezing assets—this played a very important role. [… However] the protection of collaborators overseas is still a problem.”

“There is no doubt that Lava Jato (Car Wash) symbolizes a very important chapter in the Brazilian history of fighting corruption. But I think it cannot be interpreted as an isolated initiative.”

“What is the next, in my opinion, we should strengthen democratic institutions in Brazil, not only from the executive, from the parliament, but also from the criminal justice system. The more we empower, the more we strengthen democratic institutions, the less the risk of pushing back.”